Alex_St wrote:Kurt, please let me know, if You explore something new about Armenian.
Alex_St wrote:PS: sorry for my English.
Alex_St wrote:I live in St.-Petersburg, Russia. It's over 400 miles between those Cities.
Alex_St wrote:My breed exactly Azeri tumblers. We call this breed as Baku.
Alex_St wrote:Here is some photos of baku tumblers of my friend Grigory, he is livin' in Moscow:
Alex_St wrote:Kurt, what can You say about this type of Azeri tumblers? I think they have a lot of Turkish roots. But some people think that this pigeons have Iranian roots. It's very interesting. I think that truth somewhere in the middle.
Kurt Gürsu wrote:They do have a lot of Turkish roots and more then one way. The comments you hear about the Iranian roots area also true but with a twist. Part of the Azeri tumbler is what we call Turkman Tumbler, which is from Northern Iran. So, it is from Iran but really from a Turk descent (more precisely Azeri Turk descent) not the Iranian birds most people would imagine as in the highfliers of Iran. It would be very difficult to hide the long body shape of those birds in any mix any way.
Alex_St wrote:Ok. Now about Baku Tumblers.
Azeri tumblers have different type of performance unlike of Leninakan tumblers. First of all they have not a loud knock (crack) of wings. Tumbling style of Azeri - is butterfly.
Alex_St wrote:Hello Kurt. The pictures You post are not opening. I don't know why.
Alex_St wrote:Now about Baku and Azeri.
Baku city is a capital of Azerbaijan. And here in Russia we know only one and only breed from Azerbaijan. This is old breed named Baku tumblers. That is why we called Baku tumblers is Azeri - they from Azerbaijan.
I tired to ask citizens of Azerbaijan about other breeds. They all says that they have only single breed. It is Baku breed.
So there is a question: if Azeri breed is only one and only, why I see different types of than breed?
I've never heard about other Azeri breeds.
Here is some pictures of baku tumblers: http://golubibaku.narod.ru/galer/leo/leo.htm http://golubibaku.narod.ru/galer/leonid/leonid.htm
As You'll see they all different but all called Baku Tumblers. It is strange for me. A they all have Turkish roots?
Alex_St wrote:In Russia we know about two breeds from Turkmenia (i.e. Soviet Union Republic named Turkmenistan).
First famous breed is Agaran or Aga Airan. This is part of big middle-asian (Uzbek) group of tumblers.
Alex_St wrote:Second breed from Turkmenia is a tumblers from Krasovodsk City. Actually this breed is Baku. As far as Krasnovodsk is near Baku.
Unfortunately the photo You post is not opening.
Kurt. It is very important for me to know about affinity of Turkish Takla and Azery breeds. As example Grigiry's breed.
Alex_St wrote:PS: Nikolai told me about You. That is why I'm here. Best regards.
Alex_St wrote:Hello again.
Kurt, sorry for another question.
I Just found out about old breed named Corum clean-legged. I think this is a root for baku. Maybe I've wrong? Do You saw Corum pigeons?
Here is very interesting article, but I don know a Turkish.
But a photo. Especially white pigeons.
grg wrote:Alex_St wrote:The butterfly style you describing is more suitable fore Iranian Tumblers I've seen a lot here in New York area.
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