Birdman79 wrote:So is it ok to mix the the regions for performance then?
Yes and no.
Yes, if you know exactly what you are doing.
No, because most mixing is done by not knowing and hoping for the best.
Birdman79 wrote:Wouldn't that create a bird that doesn't look like neither region?
However, those birds also are some what distinct in a way one can tell if they are mixed.
This is most of the time true but becomes more difficult when the mixing is done multiple times.
Birdman79 wrote:I am surprised that turkish breeders are mixing regions,as these birds come from there,so there's no shortage of performers.
The process is called "kırmak" translated to English "Breaking"
This method is widely used in the championship circles.
Basically, each regional variety has its' distinct qualities but also its' limitations.
So, to be successful with in the competition regulations you would need a bird that would get into a combination more often, charge the coop at a certain height like Sivas, go up long like Mardin or Urfa and do this while tumbling a lot like Ankara etc, etc.
When the top guys are flying excellent Ankaras the only way one can separate himself from competition is to increase the climbing distance of it's birds.
To do this, a longer climbing but not as hard tumbling bloodline is necessary.
Now, it certainly can be done by working with in your bloodline but it will take much much longer time to achieve what you are trying to get to.
Any way, I am sure you get the picture.
Breaking a bloodline has to be done in a very precise way with a very distinct bird.
To do this successfully two very pure bloodlines from different varieties are used.
The young birds out of this breeding (if the pairing is successful) end up being what we call competition birds.
The problem is these birds are usually not the best birds to start a breeding program with.
Or I should say they will present many difficulties to the fancier and end up taking a lot of time to get an established bloodline.
Kind of a gambling, some young birds might be excellent and some not so impressive.
However, it is almost impossible to get the parents of these broken birds from the fanciers.
All these, if the breaking was done on purpose and by some one who knew exactly what he was doing.
Maybe 2,3 percent of the birds in the market are like these.
The rest are crap shoot.
In the mean time there are still many fanciers that follow the traditional ways and protect the traditional qualities of different regional varieties.
These are the guys the competition fanciers will go to get the newest bird to break into their bloodline.
After all, if a fancier ends up with top notch performing broken birds and spends the time to settle the bloodline where he is getting all young birds with very similar high quality performances and physical qualities, then that fancier pretty much becomes a legend in the community. It is a very difficult thing to do but can be done. These types of birds are no longer known as a regional variety but only known by the name of the fancier. This final effect is the one that drives most good fanciers to breaking. To make a name. Then again as I said it is a very difficult thing to do.
Side effect of it is the market full of birds no one knows what they are and most people wouldn't any way.
They are takla but not with distinct quality where you can safely do a pairing.
We call these birds "El Bombası" translated to English as "Grenade" as in it can explode in your hands.