Birdman79 wrote:I believe inbreeding has alot to do with birds not being able to perform.They'll need to be outcrossed because the blood becomes to tight.Just my 2 cents....
A year ago i brought 5 pairs of turkish tumbler to be honest the birds are not very good at all they do not fly or tumble if they do they only tumble once or twice. In that lot of there was only 1 good bird but it kept landing in the tree close to the coop and wouldn't come down for 2-3 days not even for food or water. And then went it finally got down it wouldn't fly down it would just jump from one brunch to another till it go to the top of the coop but when he was flying he would fly for 3-4 hours every 2-3 days. But unfortunately one day when he went for a fly we never saw him again.
tumblers wrote:Recently i have brought 5 pairs from a well known turkish breeder in a different state from me in australia he shipped the birds and when i received them i flew them in our garage some tumbled up to five times they are very light and look longer than the once i previously purchased. Four days later i flew one hen to see how it flew in the sky. It started to fly low between houses and trees and then then went it went to tumble it climbed up and the tumbled 4-5 times. I flew a couple birds up so it would come down but it didn't it continued flying for another 20 minutes before it decided to fly away for around 20 minutes then it came back again then started flying around the house about 10 times then flew away again it kept doing the same thing until it started to get dark then it came back and got down?
How can i get good performance birds from these birds ? when i breed them but i cant fly them at the moment because there is two many hawks in this area and i want to breed from them 1st because its taken me a long time to find good birds like this in Australia
thank you for your help
tumblers wrote:Well I disagree about what you said tumbling in garage or room pointless .
firstly not all turkish tumblers do this only the good birds from a good bloodline second you mentioned that (Good bloodlines must get daily exercise or it becomes unable to fly from tumbling) in my opinion tumbling in the garage that indicate to a good bloodline.
Kurt Gürsu wrote:Buying new birds there are 3 options:
Buy breeding pairs over a year old and not fly them. Test their young. Since the parents are older and you are not sure about their training it would be a waste of a time to try to fly them and judge the bloodline by their performance.
Buy very young birds, who have just left the nest and started eating on their own. Get these birds in to the air as soon as possible. Young birds who have not been flown and are 4-5 months old will not have developed their muscles properly and will give you a lot of difficulty. Simply getting them to fly might be a hassle.
Buy a fully trained bird with no bad habits and after getting it used to your loft for 4-5 weeks slowly get him in the air. For this kind of a purchase you must see the bird flying at his home loft and it might cost you a lot more compared to others.
tumblers wrote:my question here lets say i bought a good birds trained how can you train their offspring when you don't have any adult to fly them with ?
tumblers wrote:also do they pass their helicopter flying style generic or do you have to train them ?
hasseian_313 wrote:another thing about iraqi tumbers and some turkish tumblers that i see if the dont fly they get vary heavy and cant fly anymore we usally fly a bird for a year and the next year its is a breeder
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